Memory of the student experiences of a 1985 graduate of a Catholic university …almost exactly 20 years after the the end of the Second Vatican Council in 1965… as recalled in and article by Amy Morris-Young in National Catholic Reporter, June 30, 2016.

The author of this  article remembers this in-class interaction with the Jesuit professor whom she described as a “terrific theologian and exacting teacher”:

When I raised my hand, and asked an…obvious question, I saw Fr. Bill’s face change. The smile he had radiated as we batted ideas around the room vanished.

He said, “We are not allowed to say that.”

I blinked, literally stunned by his answer. What do you mean we aren’t allowed to say that? (Emphasis mine) You give us all this information, teach us to pull apart each line of the Bible to expose the history underneath, and then you say, “Oh, by the way, you have to stop here?”

Fr. Bill looked down at his podium. He said quietly, “We are not allowed to say that, either.”

…It suddenly hit me. Here was this crazily intelligent Jesuit. He had years and years of education under his belt, was a passionate and effective teacher, but he operated in a virtual cage. He was surrounded by brick walls of what was allowed, what was dogma, what was heresy.”   (Emphasis mine)

NOT ALLOWED TO SAY THAT?  Here we are 50 years after Vatican II and it is the same situation, even worse for the passage of time and massive exit of Catholics from the pews. Even Pope Francis is criticized by the Roman Rite Curia for saying things like “Who am I to judge?”  or  for suggesting that communion be permissible for the divorced and remarried.

After 50 years of Vatican II, the major result has been to define more clearly the difference between the Roman and Vatican II Rites (rites being different interpretations of Catholic theology, governance and liturgy).  For more on this, visit